The Inheretance trilogy (Eragon, Eldest, and ???)

#31 Posted 1 year ago

Who else here reads that? It's not as good as Harry Potter, but it's the best non-Harry Potter book I've ever read.

Then you obviously haven't read many books.

#32 Posted 1 year ago

Also... I absolutely agree with anti-shurtugal.com.

LSquare2007

#33 Posted 1 year ago

CarnivorousSheep: That was wonderful! ^.^

I will admit though, I really enjoyed both of them and am looking forward to the third book (due out Summer 08 apparently). I suppose I'm a sucker for unoriginals =)

#34 Posted 1 year ago

I haven't read many books, have I? I suppose it's a matter of opinion. I guess I just like it because it was so well written (and advertised). I don't really know.

Umbreon

#35 Posted 1 year ago

No, you haven't read many books Wok. lol
But I liked Eragon and Eldest. They were a little slow, but otherwise, good.

Ravenstown101

#36 Posted 1 year ago

I think the Inheritance trilogy is really good. The author can make it seem so realistic plus its very action packed.

Navaroas

#37 Posted 1 year ago

Eragon and the Eldest were two really good books and better than Harry Potter in my piece of literature ( I didn't want to say book twice in the same sentence.). The characters were really good and I felt a bond with both the rider and dragon. I can't wait for the third one to come out so I figure out the end.

#38 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #37 by Navaroas

YES! Narvarosas, that was very well put, and I agree with you fully. Although I don't think it was better than Harry Potter, but if Eragon and Eldest weren't so slow, it would be, definitely.

Navaroas

#39 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #38 by wokwoktheskydragon

When you say slow, do you mean progression of story line, or how fast the books come out? It its the latter, I can understand. Being able to pick up the first four Harry Potters books and read them back to back was awesome. I'm not ashamed to admit that maybe I lost a little something by not rereading all the books before the next one came out. If its the first choice, well I'm one of those people who read The Hatchet and went like [ "Oh no, I want him to keep surviving in the wild." ] I wouldn't have minded if the progression was even slower and they went some more in-depth with (putting this in spoiler as not to hurt somebody who hasn't read the second book) [ the whole dragon training progress and the journey in general. ]

#40 Posted 1 year ago

Paolini is overrated. Way overrated. He's just a mediocre writer.

M3gaUltraChicken

#41 Posted 1 year ago

Well...I like those books. Possibly my favorite series.

#42 Posted 1 year ago

Read The Lord of the Rings. That's what you call a masterpiece of fantasy. And observe how much Paolini had copied from it. He basically took the whole culture of Elves and Dwarves that Tolkien created and made it his own.

#43 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #42 by Shady

Shady, two things. One, I never liked Lord of the Rings at all. I read the first half of the first book and lost interest almost immediately. So we obviously have different taste in books.
Two: J.R.R. Tolkien didn't create Elves and Dwarves. Stories of them have been around for a long time, in case you haven't noticed. He just used one of our modern myths to push his story along a little.

#44 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #43 by wokwoktheskydragon

Well, obviously I have no right to criticize your taste, but consider this: Tolkien was an academic and professor at Oxford, and he studied langauges and mythologies for all his life. Paolini was a 15 year-old American boy when he started writing the Inheritance. By the way, it's The Lord of the Rings. That's the official title of the novel.

I never said that Tolkien created the Elves and Dwarves. I am accutely aware that the two have been present in mythologies for a long time. I said Tolkien created their cultures. Maybe not from scratch-- he based upon the mythologies-- but the Elves and Dwarves that you know now are created by him. The fact that Elves and Dwarves are always enemies, the fact that Elves were fair, had magic and lived in forests, and that Dwarves were great builders and weilded axes... Paolini copied all of it straight from The Lord of the Rings.

#45 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #44 by Shady

sorry to be rude man I don't want to start a fight or anything but I'd like to see you do better.

WillyFourEyes

#46 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #45 by thatguy42

*throws yellow flag*

Violation of Ebert's law. Ten-yard penalty.

(I hate it when people use that cop-out retort. *shrug*)

#47 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #46 by WillyFourEyes

I'm just saying (s)he doesn't have any famous books out so (s)he doesn't have much room to talk

#48 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #47 by thatguy42

...Who? ...I'm confused now.

#49 Posted 1 year ago

sorry to be rude man I don't want to start a fight or anything but I'd like to see you do better.

You must realise that there are many more 15 year-old writers, many of whom, undoubtly, would have been better than Paolini, than published books written by 15 year-olds? The only reason Paolini's book was published was that his parents had a publishing company and were willing to go all over the US with him to promote his book.

I'm just saying (s)he doesn't have any famous books out so (s)he doesn't have much room to talk

1. For your information, I'm a girl.
2. As soon as you start judging books by its popularity, you have shown how ignorant you are.

#50 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #49 by Shady

Heh... well, even if they did have their own publishing company, that doesn't change the goodness/badness of the book. And you do realize that Paolini graduated colledge when he was 15? How many other 15-year-old-writers have done that? I think his book would have been just as good if his parents were in a mental hospital, or something...

#51 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #49 by Shady

k, you don't have ANY books out, my bad. and like wokwok said, the kid's a genius, his parents owning a publishing company was just some bloody good luck (that he would've still been fine without)

WillyFourEyes

#52 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #50 by wokwoktheskydragon

Not true. Paolini never went to college. He was homeschooled by the same parents who helped publish the book. And let's remember one important detail...he started writing Eragon at 15 years old. It wasn't officially published until he was 19. That would make him, what, 22 now? Not a knock against the author himself...I just want to try to clear things up so that there isn't a whole lot of misinformation being spread around.

*sigh* Never mind.

#53 Posted 1 year ago

Thanks, Willy, for the information.

The reason that all of you are so awe-strucken with Paolini is only because you think he must be a genius to be able to write such a book at such a young age. And that's because there are a lot of young writers whose books you have no chance to see, even though they might be a lot better than Paolini. I'm not saying Paolini writes complete trash. He's just overrated. If his parents didn't have the publishing company, do you think he'd be able to persuade a publisher to publish his book? Not likely. Not even JK Rowling could find a publisher at first. So if Paolini's parents didn't have the publishing company, you wouldn't even know Christopher Paolini existed. And would his book be as famous if he didn't go all over the US to promote it? Not likely either. And as we all know, if someone is famous, his work must be good. Right thatguy42?

#54 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #53 by Shady

Shady, you are kind of right in some ways. Firstly, though, we (or I, I don't think I can speak for everyone here) don't like Paolini just because of his ability to write at a young age. I only judge the book, not the author. Besides, the book was published, and even if there are better ones out there, this one is still good. On the note of his copying Star Wars and things, consider this. In music, some singers write remixes for certain songs. Does the fact that they are based off another song make them terrible? No. So these books are just like a remix.
Conisder that.

#55 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #53 by Shady

yep exactly. glad you finally got that. and we're not sitting here going like "omg this is the best book ever every other book sucks" we're saying it's a good book. and can you name someone who worte a crappy book that's famous for it?

#56 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #53 by Shady

also, why did you come here if you hate the book so much? just wanted to start crap?

M3gaUltraChicken

#57 Posted 1 year ago

I love both Inheretance and The Lord of the Rings. They both have similarities and Paolini does owe alot to Tolkien. His elves and dwarves are extremely similar but he has a completely different view on magic especially. You have to give him at least some credit. Tolkien has an older style of writing though so some people might not like it as much.

#58 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #54 by wokwoktheskydragon

Books are not like music. While all authors in some way and at some degree would copy from one another, Paolini didn't just take inspiration from The Lord of the Rings (I'm not very familiar with Star Wars, so I'm only going to talk about The Lord of the Rings), he made a direct imitation, and gave no credit to Tolkien's work at all. It's not just the culture of the Elves and Dwarves. Here is a passage from anti-shur'tugal:

"This is better illustrated by showing rather than telling, so here is a
list, with Tolkien's names on the left, and Paolini's on the right:

Arwen Arwden
Isengard Isenstar
Elessar Elessari
Morgoth Morgothar
Imladris Imiladris
Caranthir Ceranthor
Isildur Isidar
Mithril Mithrim"

And whether his book is good or not... I cannot argue about that, because everyone judges things differently and if it's your personal opinion, then it's your personal opinion. But the fact is that Paolini had almost nothing original, not to mention creative, to speak of in his books. Prophecy, quest, dragons... Who hasn't used that theme before?

#59 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #55 by thatguy42

You wouldn't recognize sarcasm even if it hits you in the face, would you?

I've never said that people who are overrated write crappy books. Their books are just that-- mediocre. Examples of other overrated writers? How about JK Rowling?