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| #61 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #57 by | Reply | In short, Paolini has made it possible for all the teenagers who have difficulties in appreciating Tolkien's style of writing to enjoy a similar fantasy environment. He has changed a modern literature into a teen novel. What a great achievement.
As a side note, Paolini's magic system isn't anything new. Flip through a few fantasy novels and you are bound to find something similar. |
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| #62 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #59 by Shady | Reply | | It's not like I worship the ground he walks on. I actually don't like him tons, but I just think he's a good writer. and you came on here knowing that people that like the book will be talking about it and you came on here and said it wasn't a good book. or something like that I forgot. and about the whole having connections with publishing companies is really common. it's cause of J.K Rowling's friend that she got Harry Potter written. or her friends friends. or something like that. you know what I mean |
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| #64 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | and you came on here knowing that people that like the book will be talking about it and you came on here and said it wasn't a good book. or something like that I forgot.
And......... what's the problem with that? Debates are good. Even better when you start to realise just how overrated Paolini is.and about the whole having connections with publishing companies is really common. it's cause of J.K Rowling's friend that she got Harry Potter written. or her friends friends. or something like that. you know what I mean
That doesn't have anything to do with anything, does it? You have wandered a long way from the original point. The reason I mentioned that Paolini got his book published because his parents owned a publishing company was that I wanted to demonstrate there was nothing spectacular about his feat of publishing a book at such a young age. I wasn't even saying that it's a bad thing to have a connection with publishing companies. |
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| #65 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #63 by Underling | Reply | | LOL Underling... Thanks! It's great to have some support. |
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| #66 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #64 by Shady | Reply | | oh okay. my bad. and have you even read them cause I know it was really hard for me to get through the first like 100 pages in the first one but I borrowed it, and I had had it for like two months, so I kind of had to push through it (the first 100 pages) |
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| #67 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #66 by thatguy42 | Reply | | I have read Eragon. Meanwhile, Eldest is gathering dust in the corner ever since my friend gave it to me as a birthday present, because I haven't had the initiative to read it after I suffered through Eragon. |
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| #68 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #67 by Shady | Reply | | Eldest is way better you should give it a chance. the "twist" is not very surprising but the book is still great |
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| #69 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | I think Eragon was better than Eldest. At any rate, I think that, going by the plotline's similarity to Star Wars, I can effectively predict the rest. I'll put up some Ancient Egyptian spoiler tags for those who don't want to see. [ Luke Eragon and his friends go to Jabba the Hutt the Ra'Zac and rescue Han Solo Katrina. The Rebel Alliance The Varden prepares a strike against The Galactic Empire Galbatorix's Empire. Luke Eragon gets captured by Darth Vader Murtaugh and is brought before Darth Sidious Galbatorix. Luke Eragon refuses to turn, so Darth Sidious Galbatorix tries to kill him. Darth Vader Murtaugh saves Luke Eragon, but at the cost of his life. Whoop-dee-doo. ] And one more thing, I agree about the movie, worst crap I've ever seen. |
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| #70 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #67 by Shady | Reply | Agree with Shady.
the first was all right. I actually used it for a project cause I had liked it back then.
But I never even finished the second one. The odd the to me is that my cousin who has been forbidden by his religious mother from reading ANY magic /fantasy books LOVES this series........I swear, if you could get away with reading a fantasy book, why would you choose this series? |
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| #72 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | the inheritance trilogy rules! the filmed sucked bad eggs mind you  |
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| #73 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | the inheritance trilogy rules! the filmed sucked bad eggs mind you |
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| #74 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | the inheritance trilogy rules! the filmed sucked bad eggs mind you |
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| #75 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | the inheritance trilogy rules! the filmed sucked bad eggs mind you |
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| #76 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | the third book is called empire, so i have heard
the movie sucked bad eggs, but the books are the best things since the harry potter's in my opinion! just my cup of tea... though it took FOREVER to get anywhere with the beginning of Eragon... and there were some really dull and slow bits in both books, but still awesomely awesome overall!
(oh and i have no idea why that just did a multiple post before i finished, i think my internet like went fritzy, and then came back, and posted them :S after lots of frantic clicking :S sorry)) |
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| #77 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | I never found it dull or slowed down, but I guess that's because on the weekend I get the books, I crash through them 10 hours a day or something. The movie was for kids >_<. No plot, and what was supposed to be battles as epic as LoTR, except without the gore. |
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| #78 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #61 by Shady | Reply | | I like how you didn't name any with similar magic systems. At least it's not MP. A videogame where magic comes from HP would be sweet =D |
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| #79 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Eragon was good, Eldest was worse and the movie... too horrible for words (and yes i know that i just used words to describe it)
i got through eragon in like a day when i was eight... extremely simple plotline but i still liked it... when i was eight |
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| #80 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | You're topic title should be Eragon, Eldest, ??? and ???. Since Christopher Paolini announced he's writing four books instead of 3. Go look on Aleagasiea.com(SP) |
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| #81 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | what four, can't he just wrap up the story in three. i hate trilogies that go for more than three books  |
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| #82 Posted 8 months ago | Reply | I read both books. I didn't like them. I didn't hate them, but I barely enjoyed myself. Star wars the Lord of the Ring Dragonriders of Pern Eragon was a okay series, but not the best. To be honest, the only part I found really interesting, like really interesting, was that old story about the elf merging with a tree. (sounds even cooler than in my head...) Most of the similarities were pointed out in this thread already, so I haven't got much more to say. |
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| #83 Posted 8 months ago | Reply | I did my a point about this but it was lost in "The Great system failure of 2008", but anyway i think this is an ok book (not amazing and dif better out there) with some good parts and some bad parts and he is acturally a pretty good writer, (just needs a better story to write lol) and yes i agree that he took a lot of the story from other books, but Harry Potter is just Tom Brown's School days with a bit of the old Magic put in for a twist, my point is that sadly there are very few books whch are new, (though this does take it to a new level) I think this a book you should rent (not buy) for a long Holiday in middle of no-where and you have nice easy (if long) story to read.
PS my use of harry was just an easy example not one of anti-Harry posts. |
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| #84 Posted 8 months ago | Reply | The new book is called Brisinger.
It gets released on September 20th. |
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| #85 Posted 8 months ago, in reply to post #84 by MrsSallyBakura | Reply | You are correct. well done, you win at life.
i think Paolini is taking the piss a bit. it comes out in spetember! I can understand he's been busy, what with his sudden fame and whatnot. but, still, a lot of authors annoyingly do this, when they are famous. it gets on my nerves. |
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| #86 Posted 8 months ago | Reply | | Paolini has also revealed that it may not be a trilogy, that he might write a fourth. |
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| #87 Posted 5 months ago | Reply | right what to say about the series...
BEST BOOKS IVE EVER READ!
and i read alot
movie sucks most definately, so many changes and removals, it makes little sense:
brom: ok eragon you have a dragon you are a dragon rider now you come to the varden.
then they kill off the ra'zac who are vital to the plot in 2 and most definately 3 the movies is screwed
have anyone else noticed that the first 2 books are a puzzle for the final book? i have gathered the informations and i can tell you the basics of the endings
just message me if you want to know my prediction for the ending
if not the last book is coming out next month XD |
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| #88 Posted 5 months ago | Reply | I have read both books, being an avid fan of fantasy, however, I started reading it the secong I finished with the Belgariad, so I tended to notice that some scenes where, well, directly copied then had the names changed. for example, the scene where Garion is moving the rock with Belgarath in Magicians gambit and the scene where Eragon is drawing magic into him from his surroundings. All the comparison I need can be found on this website.
http://telpenori.blogspot.com/2007/02/paolini-and-plagiarism_28.html
However, despite all this, the books were'nt nearly as intolerable as some others I have read. |
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| #89 Posted 5 months ago | Reply | It was sort of a trade-off between the two books in my opinion; Eragon had a better storyline, whereas by Eldest Christopher Paolini's writing had improved, but at the beginning it was boring as hell. Both the books rip off so many other fantasy/sci-fi novels, but if you can get around that, they aren't too bad. I found on the whole that Eragon was far better than Eldest, because it had more Murtagh!  I find him more interesting as a character than Eragon. If I was female, then I would probably be a Murtagh fangirl.
I just hope that the third book, Brisingr I think its called, will be good or I'll have waited all these longs months for nothing |
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| #90 Posted 4 months ago | Reply | In short, Paolini has made it possible for all the teenagers who have difficulties in appreciating Tolkien\'s style of writing to enjoy a similar fantasy environment. He has changed a modern literature into a teen novel. What a great achievement. Read The Lord of the Rings. That's what you call a masterpiece of fantasy. And observe how much Paolini had copied from it. He basically took the whole culture of Elves and Dwarves that Tolkien created and made it his own
Shady, FYI: I am a teenager, and I really appreciate and enjoy both Tolkien's and Paolini's writing styles. Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece of fantasy. Inheritance is too, however.Also... I absolutely agree with anti-shurtugal.com.
Why don't you just post there? You'd probably get more people agreeing with you and less people yelling at you.No, wrong. It's a cheap rip-off. I made the following a while back fairly quickly, so don't complain about the lack of details, but they do capture the core of the Inheritance plot quite well: Paolini copied all of it straight from The Lord of the Rings.
to CarnivorousSheep & Shady: Yes, the general plot of Inheritance isn't that original. But it's very well-written, and frankly, there aren't that many books out there that are 100% original. Heck, a lot of people said Harry Potter was bad and unoriginal, but that didn't stop it from being the most popular book basically ever.Paolini is overrated. Way overrated. He's just a mediocre writer.
Shady, there are about 10,000,000 people who'd disagree with you on the last point.
In short, I think the Inheritance Cycle is really good.It's one of my favorites, and I've read Thousands of books.
Yes, it's kind of unoriginal, but all books have their flaws.
Feel free to disagree with me anyone, I'm just stating my opinion. |
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